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Establishments Prohibiting Lawful Concealed Carry…What do I do?

September 3, 2009 AZ CCW Laws, Legal Issues, Restaurant Carry 7 Comments

Question:  My favorite place to dine (Chipotle) has already began posting the no firearms signs. I assume this is in advance of the revised law taking effect the end of the month. I have seen them in many different locations so I am assuming this is some kind of a corporate directive. My question for you and the staff is… What is your recommendation for addressing the issue? Face to face with manager, letter, ignore and eat elsewhere, etc.

Answer: Usually when you see ‘no firearm’ signs going up in multiple locations of the same establishment, it is a corporate directive, not the individual stores.  You could have a conversation with the manager to ask for an explanation and background, but I doubt it would do much good.  Personally, I would send a letter to corporate asking for the reasoning behind the policy and explaining why you disagree with the policy.  Honestly, I’m betting it actually has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with potential liability issues.  This is the way corporate lawyers think.  “It’s ok if people get killed in our stores by criminal violence, we just don’t want to have any liability issues and run the risk of getting sued if someone with a gun comes into our store, has an accident and as a result someone gets hurt or killed”.

As far as your other choices, if it were me, I’d vote with my wallet and eat elsewhere.  You might also point that out in your letter to corporate.  Again, I doubt if they will care, but at some point each of us have to take a stand.  I quit shopping at Costco due to their ‘no firearms’ policy.  I’m a Sam’s Club guy now.  They don’t have such a policy.

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  1. Bob Smith says:

    I won’t be eating there anymore. I’m voting with MY wallet!

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  2. JT says:

    I submitted to Chipotle, via their web site, my refusal to eat in their places from now on because of their refusal to let me protect myself in their stores. They responded that they respect my decision, but did not waiver on their policy. No more eating there, plus I also sent their reponse to 20 of my CCW carrying friends. Voting with MY wallet.

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  3. Jim says:

    Does the law require that a means to secure your weapon be provided by the establishment in order for them to be “legal” in posting a no weapons sign?

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  4. Keaton says:

    Does Sam’s Club also allow the carrying of Firearms in open carry? Or only CCW?

    Along those lines, I’m trying to seek out a list of establishments in the greater Phoenix, Glendale, etc. area that DO NOT allow Firearms either CCW, or Open Carry… any help?

    Thanks!

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  5. ogroup says:

    The only way we will win is with our wallets

    NO GUNS+ NO $$$$

    Plus the food is not all that great anyway at one in Queen Creek AZ

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  6. Doug Little says:

    Jim,

    No, private establishments are not required to provide any secure storage for your firearm. Typically, people will leave them locked in their vehicle.

    Doug

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  7. Doug Little says:

    You’d need to check each Sam’s Club location to see if they have a sign that posts ‘No Firearms’. If there is no sign, then either open or concealed carry should be legal. If you do open carry and they ask you to remove your firearm from their store, you are required to do so by Arizona law. As far as a list of establishments that don’t permit concealed or open carry, no such list exists…

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